Предположим, что и стандартно равномерно распределены в , и они независимы, что такое PDF ?
Ответ из некоторого учебника по теории вероятностей:
Я интересно, в силу симметрии, не должны ? Это не так в соответствии с PDF выше.
Предположим, что и стандартно равномерно распределены в , и они независимы, что такое PDF ?
Ответ из некоторого учебника по теории вероятностей:
Я интересно, в силу симметрии, не должны ? Это не так в соответствии с PDF выше.
Ответы:
The right logic is that with independent , and have the same distribution and so for
This distribution is symmetric--if you look at it the right way.
The symmetry you have (correctly) observed is that and must be identically distributed. When working with ratios and powers, you are really working within the multiplicative group of the positive real numbers. The analog of the location invariant measure on the additive real numbers is the scale invariant measure on the multiplicative group of positive real numbers. It has these desirable properties:
is invariant under the transformation for any positive constant :
is transformed into via the exponential:
(3) establishes an isomorphism between the measured groups and . The reflection on the additive space corresponds to the inversion on the multiplicative space, because .
Let's apply these observations by writing the probability element of in terms of (understanding implicitly that ) rather than :
That is, the PDF with respect to the invariant measure is , proportional to when and to when , close to what you had hoped.
This is not a mere one-off trick. Understanding the role of makes many formulas look simpler and more natural. For instance, the probability element of the Gamma function with parameter , becomes . It's easier to work with than with when transforming by rescaling, taking powers, or exponentiating.
The idea of an invariant measure on a group is far more general, too, and has applications in that area of statistics where problems exhibit some invariance under groups of transformations (such as changes of units of measure, rotations in higher dimensions, and so on).
If you think geometrically...
In the - plane, curves of constant are lines through the origin. ( is the slope.) One can read off the value of from a line through the origin by finding its intersection with the line . (If you've ever studied projective space: here is the homogenizing variable, so looking at values on the slice is a relatively natural thing to do.)
Consider a small interval of s, . This interval can also be discussed on the line as the line segment from to . The set of lines through the origin passing through this interval forms a solid triangle in the square , which is the region we're actually interested in. If , then the area of the triangle is , so keeping the length of the interval constant and sliding it up and down the line (but not past or ), the area is the same, so the probability of picking an in the triangle is constant, so the probability of picking a in the interval is constant.
However, for , the boundary of the region turns away from the line and the triangle is truncated. If , the projections down lines through the origin from and to the upper boundary of are to the points and . The resulting area of the triangle is . From this we see the area is not uniform and as we slide further and further to the right, the probability of selecting a point in the triangle decreases to zero.
Then the same algebra demonstrated in other answers finishes the problem. In particular, returning to the OP's last question, corresponds to a line that reaches , but does not, so the desired symmetry does not hold.
Yea the link Distribution of a ratio of uniforms: What is wrong? provides CDF of . The PDF here is just derivative of the CDF. So the formula is correct. I think your problem lies in the assumption that you think Z is "symmetric" around 1. However this is not true. Intuitively Z should be a skewed distribution, for example it is useful to think when Y is a fixed number between and X is a number close to 0, thus the ratio would be going to infinity. So the symmetry of distribution is not true. I hope this help a bit.